Today, brother Minoru Chen spoke 24 helpful and practical points on prayer based on the Thanksgiving conference to the full-timers in Southern California. It addresses very practical points on how to carry out the current burden of prayer and is highly recommended. Click the link below to hear the audio.
24 Practical Points on Prayer – Minoru Chen, Southern California, November 30th, 2012
Oh Lord, Thank you for your Flowing on this age. You are the Flowing God. May the Lord grow in me as I enjoy my journey.
Hi Flavio,
So good to see your comment. give me a call sometime. I’ll be in Anaheim for the winter training, maybe we can get together. Keep in touch. The Lord be with your spirit.
I think as we all know, it is not easy to pray nd to pray consistently. I could never forget once Bro. Lee shared with us that he thought at that time the thing in which he had the most failure was prayer. That was an encouragement in one sense to us younger ones to just go on and pray as we can and as we remember; that is, to persevere. Just as Daniel prayed three times each day for 21 days for Israel, may we be reminded before the Winter training covering the book of Daniel to pray as we can for today’s needs for this world, North America, the Lord’s work worldwide and our individual or personal/family/church lives. Lord Jesus, do be the praying One in us and remind us each day to contact You with regard to these crucial matters…how we all need You…
LORD JESUS, HAVE MERCY ON ME, ON ANYONE IN MY CASE, TO GAIN YOU AS MY CONTENT, MY PERSON – TO ADD TO YOUR BUILDING; “LORD, OPEN THOU MY LIPS AND MY MOUTH SHALL SHOW FORTH THY PRAISE”,YOUR THANKS,YOUR LIVINGNESS. LORD JESUS, OPEN ME UP TO BRING YOU FORTH FOR THE BUILDING, FOR THE BODY, FOR YOURSELF! RELEASE THE FLOW IN EACH ONE OF US,IN AND OUT OF SEASON AS YOUR LIVING TESTIMONY TO ALL!* BROTHERS AND SISTERS, WE HAVE THE REVIVAL IN US – THE SPIRIT OF JESUS CHRIST.BUT HE NEEDS TO BE RELEASED, FLOWED OUT – IN THE MEETINGS,HOMES,CALLING ON HIS NAME, FOLLOWING HIS INSTANT SPEAKING. WHAT WE RECEIVE THROUGH THE BIBLE AND THE MINISTRY IS NOT TO STORE BUT TO DISPENSE LIBERALLY. MAY THE LORD SPEAK TO US PERSONALLY,EACH ONE OF US,AND CORPORATELY IN THIS, SO THAT THE BUILDING OF HIS CHURCH CAN SURGE. THE BURDEN IS NOT JUST TO A FEW, BUT TO EACH ONE OF US ACCORDING TO THE LORD’S ALLOCATION!
Really enjoyed your point Bro.Gary that “we have the revival in us-the Spirit of Jesus Christ” We need to co-operate with Him in what He is doing. He really just needs our co-operation.
“He needs to be released”…that is so true. May the Lord have mercy on all of us in these days that we could be brought to be “utterly responsive ” to Him.
Much grace in Him
This audio is very much helpful. Br. Minoru shared that even to get ourselves prepared to pray is something we need to learn. If we are down or depressed it is impossible to pray prayers of the kingdom. I have been entering into this Ministry of prayer with the help of the sisters around who are praying, with the help of the 20 praying points, and with the prayer times that the church in Anaheim started on Saturday mornings. However, yesterday I had an experience in which I was down and I was reminded to get out of this as soon as possible so I could continue praying. Many times is not up to us how long we’ll be in such state, but part of it, it is. The down time diminishes when we are willing to cooperate with the Lord in the church’s praying ministry. If we are desperate to get out of such condition with the view that we must cooperate with Him, He has a way to get us out of it faster. The Lord is always faithful to get us out of our down times but we must be willing. Singing does help! Calling does help! Reading the Word does help! Forgiving and loving those who may have offended does it also!
could anyone plz write down the 24 points?
1. This is a vow to pray
2. Being separated unto prayer
3. The location of prayer–our spirit
4. The condition of prayer
5. Organs of prayer–spirit, Mind, Mouth
6. Posture of prayer–inward posture of kneeling
7. Dealing
8. Defense
9. Harmony of prayer
10. Burden of prayer
11. Sense of Prayer
12. Utterance in prayer
13. Supply of prayer
14. Asking in prayer
15. Being specific in prayer
16. Thoroughness of prayer
17. Fervency in prayer
18. Fasting in prayer
19. Lingering before the Lord
20. Faith in prayer
21. Thanksgiving in prayer
22. Continuing in prayer
23. Watching in prayer
24. The reward of prayer
It has been a long time that I don’t open my mouth to pray. I have no utterance. When I have burden, I only “talk” to the Lord in this attitude, “Lord, You know the situation. You know the best. You take care of it. You know what to do.” I don’t know what else to say. I just pass that back to God. I don’t even know how to pray. It is just groaning within. These points are deep, but helpful.
Wow. Amen. I am very thankful for the admonition to not pray in a fragmented way. Just go with the flow of the Spirit. This speaking rested on me like dew. I’m glad that there are transcripts so one can keep track of all the prayer points. Sometimes members will bring up specific burdens during the prayer meeting for someone with a life-threatening emergency, someone that lost a family member, etc.. It does not seem right to correct or rebuke a saint for unloading such a burden simply because this burden was not on the list of points. I am thankful that Bro. Chen brought up that we are not restricted to points on paper. I enjoyed hearing about the three organs involved in prayer: the spirit, the mind, and the mouth. It was funny to hear that the brothers would just like to pray Hallelujah, it is done. This audio opened the eyes of my heart to more things that need to be covered in prayer. This needs to covered all the time. I enjoyed that one who genuinely prays always has a burden; it is rare that such a person needs an idea of what to pray for. Rather that person is wondering which to cover first. There are lots of things to pray for such as: the restoration of marriages, peace for troubled marriages, destroying strongholds, someone grieving over the lost of a loved one, Psalms, against resentment and bitterness, world leaders, healing, sleep, destruction of generational curses, against evil spirits, and so on. The Lord could allow someone to walk up to you and the person starts to unload her problems. The Lord won’t put more on you than you can bear. I am thankful for this audio. There’s just such life and peace added to my whole being because of this, and I’m thankful to the members of the Christ for alerting all of us to so much more that needs to be prayed about. There’s no time to waste!
I want to testify that these practical points on prayer really help me a lot since the first time I heard the audio recording in Jan 2013. Look back a few years ago, I was unable to utter any prayer due to my unbelief. But even in those disheartened years, I did feel the spirit in me was groaning. Surely it takes time to understand the sense of the spirit with a renewed mind. I feel a heavy burden to pray recently. I feel the need to review this recording again, and read the reference materials on prayer at http://beseeching.org/resources/
Praying as breathing is very normal for a Christian and almost does not need to learn. We just need to use the right organ, our spirit, to breathe spiritually. However, prayer as our ministry before God does need training. I do not know exactly when and how I start to pray differently, but I am quite sure the turning point was after learning these 24 points twenty months ago. This is real and truly I say (I think I am going crazy, but I am sober, I hope others will tell me I am not crazy), there is a battleground in the spiritual warfare. And it is in our prayer. I now see these 24 points on prayer like an introductory of the “heavenly military training” to me. I do not know what had exactly happened to me, but I cannot go back to live my life the old way, or pray in the old way. I am not a full time serving one. I am just a full time working married woman with two young kids. I have no difference from any other ordinary people in this world. Maybe the only difference is, I am here for the Lord. If we have a heart for the Lord, we can all pray like this. To pray in this way (following the first 21 points) do need lot of strength in all three parts of our being (spirit, soul, and body). There is still so much to learn.
When we practice this in our personal prayer life, we will also feel the need to pray corporately in the same way (and also following the last 3 points). The strength or effectiveness of our personal prayers cannot compare to that of corporate prayers in one accord. Sometimes when I feel really desperate and weak and no one is available, I have to ask my 3-year old daughter to pray with me. I don’t care if my daughter truly understands what I say, at least she can pray “Lord Jesus we love You, and You love us” and say “Amen” to what I pray. I wish there is a global online praying group in Skype or something that allow people to pray together 7days / 24 hours non-stop. We can just log on and find two or three other saints to pray together for fifteen minutes or so whenever we have time. We should not lose heart. Just pray whenever we can. Don’t despise the power of prayer. I even believe, through our prayer the age will turn.